new PC

After my birthday I should have all the money to start buying all the pieces for my PC. So I am looking for some feedback on this PC build i have. All the parts are about 1500 dollars and my friend is going to build it for about 10% of the cost. I do not know a lot about PCs, my friend does but he also does a lot of things just to be different, example he pushes AMD real hard for no apparent reason other than he just "doesn't like intel." So here is my build, If you want to make some suggestions try to keep it similar in price.

Mother Board	MSI H55-G43 LGA 1156 Intel H55 HDMI ATX Intel Mobo	99.99
Processor	Intel Core i7 920	279.99
Video Card	EVGA 01G-P3-1158-TR GeForce GTS 250 1GB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card	154
RAM	6 GB DDR3 Patriot Viper Tri Channel	189.99
Hard Drive	Western Digital WD10EARS Caviar Green 1 TB 64 MB Cache	99.99
Power Supply	Rosewill Xtreme Series RX850-D-B	100
Blue Ray disc drive	LITE-ON IHOS104 4X Blue-Ray Drive	59.99
Case	Logisys Ikonik RX10 Extreme Watercooling Chasis	450

just noticed i put this in the announcements instead of the discussion section =/

Here the web sight for you to shop at

http://www.newegg.com/Store/Computer.aspx?name=Computer-Hardware


Hard dives

First 2 Western Digital 150 GB drives 16 bit
cash set up in a Zero raid configuration. This will give you twice the speed of
the Tera bit drive they cost about 119.99 each. This will give you stupid speed
in game play and map loading. Or if you have the cash on hand. Get Two
VeloRaptors 600 GB drive with a 32 bit cache transfer rate . Remember this you
can all most double your speed of your drives if you set them up in a Zero raid
configuration.

150 GB with 16 Cache is 119.99 or the 600 GB
279.99 a piece

CPU/
Processor

[size=12]Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3
Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601920

Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz LGA 1366
130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601920

• 45 nm Bloomfield
  
• 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L...
  

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• [size=12]Series: Core i7
  
• L2 Cache: 4 x 256KB
  
• L3 Cache: 8MB
  
• Manufacturing Tech: 45 nm
  
• Model #: BX80601920
  
• CPU chip set Socket set is 1366 very
  fast
  
• and it 64 bit supporting too.
  
• This will give you the speed you need and the price is very
  good too.
  
• 
  
• 
  Only 294.99[/size]
  

[size=21]Mother Board --- GigaByte
Dual bios set up [/size]

[size=21] [size=12] GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB
3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard [/size][/size]

[size=21]

• [size=12] LGA 1366
  
• Intel X58
  
• 6×240pin DDR3 ...[/size][/size]
  

[size=21]

• [size=12]South Bridge: Intel ICH10R
  
• Number of Memory Slots: 6×240pin
  
• Memory Standard: DDR3 2200/1333/1066/800
  
• PCI Express 2.0 x16: 2 x PCI Express x16 slots, running
  at x16 (PCIEX16_1/PCIEX16_2) (Note 1) 2 x PCI Express x16 slot, running at x8
  (PCIEX8_1/PCIEX8_2) (Note 2) (Note 1) For optimum performance, if only one PCI
  Express graphics card is to be installed, be sure to install it in the PCIEX16_1
  slot; if you are[/size][/size]
  

[size=21][size=12] This MoBo gives you all you will need for a
very long time. [/size][/size]

[size=21]
[size=21]199.99[/size][/size]


[size=21][size=12] [size=21] Memory [/size][/size][/size]

[size=21][size=9] [size=12]Mushkin Enhanced Ridgeback 6GB (3 x 2GB)
240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model
998826[/size][/size][/size]



[size=21][size=12] Cas Latency: 6[/size][/size]
[size=21][size=12] Voltage: 1.65V[/size][/size]
[size=21][size=12] Multi-channel Kit: Triple Channel
Kit[/size][/size]
[size=21][size=12] Recommend Use: High Performance or
Gaming Memory[/size][/size]

[size=21][size=12] Don't skimp on
memory sticks I've learned the hard way [/size][/size]

[size=21][size=12]
[size=21]224,99[/size][/size][/size]


[size=21][size=12][size=9] [size=21]Video Card [/size][/size][/size][/size]
[size=21][size=12][size=21] [size=12]EVGA 015-P3-1480-AR GeForce GTX
480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support
Video Card[/size][/size][/size][/size]
[size=21][size=12] [size=12]Core Clock:
700MHz
[/size][/size][/size][size=21][size=12][size=12] Shader
Clock: 1401MHz[/size][/size][/size]
[size=21][size=12][size=12] Stream
Processors: 480 Processor Cores[/size][/size][/size]

[size=21][size=12][size=21] Now this kinda card you will not need to up grade for
about 4 to 5 years.[/size][/size][/size]


[size=21][size=12] [size=21] price 489.99[/size][/size][/size]

[size=21][size=12][size=21] Power supply 1000 Watts[/size][/size][/size]
[size=21][size=12] [size=21][size=12]KINGWIN Lazer LZ-1000
1000W Modular 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC W/ 3-Way LED Switch and
Universal Modular Connector Power Supply [/size][/size][/size][/size]

[size=21][size=12][size=9]
Fans: 140 mm blue & white switch LED fan[/size][/size][/size]
[size=21][size=12][size=9] Main
Connector: 20+4Pin[/size][/size][/size]
[size=21][size=12][size=9] +12V
Rails: 6[/size][/size][/size]
[size=21][size=12][size=9] PCI-Express
Connector: 3 x 6-Pin, 3 x 6+2-Pin[/size][/size][/size]

[size=21][size=12][size=9] [size=21] price 159.99[/size][/size][/size][/size]

[size=21][size=12][size=9][size=21] Blue ray
Drive[/size][/size][/size][/size]
[size=21][size=12][size=21] [size=12]LITE-ON Black 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DVD+R 12X
DVD-RAM 8X BD-ROM 8MB Cache SATA Internal Blu-ray Burner 12X Blu-ray Burner with
Blu-ray 3D feature Model iHBS112 - OEM [/size][/size][/size][/size]

[size=21][size=12]

• 12X BD-R 2X BD-RE 16X DV...
  
• 8X BD-ROM
  
• 8MB Cache [size=21]
  Price 139.99[/size][/size][/size]
  

[size=21][size=12][size=21] [size=25] Case [/size][/size][/size][/size]
[size=21][size=12][size=21]
[size=12] LOGISYS Computer CS8008BK Black Aluminum ATX
Full Tower Watercooling Computer Case


or
[size=12]LOGISYS Computer
CS8008SL Silver Aluminum ATX Full Tower Watercooling Computer
Case


Both Water cool


price 449.99

Key pad and Mouse both Bluetooth

Logitech MX 5500 Revolution Black Bluetooth
Cordless Desktop Standard keyboard & Mouse Kit


Price 149.99







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[size=21][size=12][size=21] Total price of this New Build that will last for
years is .......[/size][/size][/size]

[size=21][size=12][size=21]
.................2350.00..........[/size][/size][/size]
[size=21][size=12][size=21] That's with two 150 raptor
drives.[/size][/size][/size]
[size=21][size=12][size=21] Cut out what you
don't want. [/size][/size][/size]
[size=21][size=12][size=21] But this is what I would recommend for a super
system that will last you.[/size][/size][/size]

Ethic, what you have is fine. I would suggest however that instead of the Nvidia 250 you are looking at, you should consider just getting the 285 or higher since those are recommended for ultra mode. Little more pricey, but worth it in the long run.

And your friend should just build it for you for free! Well, I would have anyways.

What you suggested looks pimp blk but im getting a head ache trying to decipher it. It is also nearly twice as much as what I am currently thinking so i can either keep saving and get a PC next year this time, or just roll with what i got and hope i get a job sometime in the next 3 years so i can upgrade when it is necessary.

Thanks for taking a look at it Molecular and blk.

while looking up the new vid card you suggested i found this that I can buy, a bit cheaper after switching the vid cards out and will get shipped directly to me already built and has alot of the same specs + 2 gigs more ram and i wont have to wait for my friend (there is really no telling how long it will be). Some of the reviews are bad but again some of them are good so idk, what do you think?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229154&cm_re=GeForce_GTX_285-_-83-229-154-_-Product

apparently the bad reviews are everywhere not just on newegg. I have looked around and it seems the CyberPowerPCs are very hit or miss, and more frequently miss. They seem to work fine after you get them and toy with them a bit, in most cases anyway. Some actually work right out of the box but this may be a gamble and for a hundred dollars (thats the difference in price) i think i should just let my friend build it. Idk like i said i dont know alot about PCs ha

Some PC's are somewhat hit or miss especially if they are cheap.

Don't get an e-machine...my experience is they die within 1 yr once the warranty is void.

I imagine its the same with some of these 'store bought' pcs.

Hewlitt Packards are better from my experience and their support is better than average...

If you have enough savy I suggest build your own somewhat works well.

The current PC I have has run for me since spring of 2004. build with the latest Motherboard and upgraded some since with Video cards and Ram.

For the love of god, if you need to buy a store bought PC, get a friggin HP. Emachines are crap, and dells are even worse then that. Also, there is absolutely no need to spend almost 1800 on a fuckin computer. Try using tigerdirect. they have a better selection than newegg, and are usually priced the same or cheaper. My system cost me about 1100 with the shipping and I have no issues with it. I'm guessing you're not too computer savvy, which is not a bad thing, so you can get pre-built systems from tiger direct. Also, in case it's hard to find on the site here, my cell number is 702-203-4574. Call me if you have questions since I don't really look here everyday and may miss any important questions. MY phone is almost always on, and if I don't answer, shoot me a text message and I will call you back.

Alright i will definitely look on tigerdirect. I am most definitely not computer savvy. I used to be some what computer literate in high school but so much has changed i don't know anything anymore. I basically want a PC that can run ultra mode and most games and that is semi upgradable. My current PC i got in highschool and i went from 1 gig to 2 gigs of ram and thats it. Like i said i should have a job sometime soon (i hope anyway, if no i am seriously fucked) so i will be able to get soemthing new in a few years if necessary. I will let you know what i find molecular, thanks again.

I found these two, what do you think? Both are the same price but one is liquid cooling and other is not. They are the two huge differences and teh 2 video cards are diffrent. http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5975059&CatId=4925


http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=31135&sku=SYX-1040

You can also to at compusa.com witch is own by tiger Direct.
I found a customer a computer an HP with windows 7 64 bit with 6 gigs of ram for 559.99. But if you want you can get that then replace the power supply and the Video card . that would be the cheapest way out

Ethicless wrote:I found these two, what do you think? Both are the same price but one is liquid cooling and other is not. They are the two huge differences and teh 2 video cards are diffrent.

If you can get a liquid cooled system for the same price as one that isn't, then I'll slap the shit out of you if you don't take the liquid cooled system. You'll have far better performance since your stuff will stay noticably cooler. Video cards are no big shakes. I'll look at the links and see which one has what card then edit this post here.

EDIT: Go with the liquid cooled. ATI Cards are crappy to have becuase the drivers ATI pushes for them are seriously flawed and you will have issues. Stick with Nvidia for now, and gun for the liquid cooling.

Will the 250 be able to run in ultra mode seeing that there are 2 of them in SLI mode? I am thinking i may go with this one. It seems like a good deal and has all the specs that I want.

Yes the card will work fine. Get the liquid cooled one and replace the card with the Nivida.


EVGA 015-P3-1489-AR GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card'

Thic card can be liquid cooled with your system setup so you woun't have to worry about over heating it and you can over clock the shader.


Don't go cheapo on your Video card.

But Hey it's your FAIL if you do, and have to up grade it in a six months or a year. LOL

Yes the 250s will work in ultra mode so will the Nivida 800s. But if you going to spend your money get the mac daddy and don't worry about it.

Gees Dream all you want too buddy but make up your mind.
But be sure to check out the warranty on the whole thing first be for you buy remember this at all times Buyer beware your on your own. Tech support means no support in a lot of company's. I've only been building these things for 15 years now lol

Yes the best Villains have the best toy to kill you with in game. Keep that in mind if you buy a cheap system.

The liquid cooling one has 2 Geforce 250s 1 gig a piece in SLI mode. And yeah you were talking about them overheating. The case kinda scares me, i dont see many fans on it at all. Tehre is one on the top, and there are vents in the side window. None on the back that i can tell but i could be wrong.

Ethicless, stop listening to blk. Go with the liquid cooled one and leave the video cards alone. You're system will be just fine for a while before you'll need to worry about upgrading.

And yes, the 250's will run ultra mode.

alright, my birthday is today so im hoping i get bookoos of money from my parents and brother and sister...cross your fingers

Happy belated birthday ...how did the money grab go...in my family of 7 a birthday was nice but it never usually meant a winfall.

pretty good, with all the money from my birthday and from graduation, i am about 100-200 short, but I am pretty sure i can get it out of my parents...i just have to come up with a good scheme. It is kinda pointless anyway until i get fast internet...this satallite shit is about to kill me

I think someone out there hates me cause just my fucking luck, i go and look at the page with the PC i want, and it is no longer avliable. I called Tigerdirect, they say it is out of stock and they will not be receiving any more...ugh!! He recomended the other PC i posted. I am thinking that one as well now, or i could get another liquid cooled one by Ultra with i5...I am thinking the i7 is definitely the way to go though

I also just foudn this ibuypower machine for the same price..12 gigs just like the other one but it only has 1 video card, but it is a nicer card..stil a radeon though
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6294855&Sku=I455-95800

Wish you luck